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Re: Who is a Bhartiya? [Re: sickofviolence] #16698 - 05/26/02 09:45 AM Edit Reply Quote

Isn't this guy really someting? He has no knowledge of Sanskrit or anything that has to do with Hindu culture, but tries everytime to explain things............ or better corrupt things to underline his dubious, onesided and anti-Hindu, but towards Muslim atrocities a courtious excusing or forgetting 'love'philosophy. Bh�rata comes from the historical emperor Bharata. The scions were called Bh�ratas, and later the subjects of this emperor were called Bh�ratiiya. The word comes from the root 'bhr' meaning 'to bear'(etymological 'bhr' is cognate to ' to bear' and the word 'born'!) Sov says: "Vedas also declare," Sarva Jeeva Tiraskaram Kesavam Pratigachchati", meaning Whomsoever you cricize, it reaches God." Where in the Vedas did he find this portion of the verse?Kesavam is as far as i know not a Vedic word. Keshava is the word used in Sm�rta Sanskrit for Krshna. Beside prati-gacchati means 'going against'! and not 'reaches". This fractioned verse phrase just means: "he who is making (his) whole life curved=crooked is going against Keshava." SOV says '.....today, we are trying following what is contrary to our ancient culture." Why does he say 'we'? He tries to make every Hindu a part of his own confusion and creating this complot deterioration. Who says that it is generally deteriorated by 'many Hindus'? Where is any word against any militant Muslims? Where are MANY Hindus dividing mankind in two or even trying to make the execution of edversaries into a religious sanction? Where is his critical word against especially non-Hindus who invented words like "heathen" and "inquisition", "kafir', 'jizya', 'fatwah' or 'jihad', etc? Look at this wolf in sheep clothes. He can't be a Hindu, maybe not even a moderate Muslim. He is for sure a very persistent anti-Hindu, who has just INTERNET KNOWLEDGE of Hinduism. His tactics are concentrated in the soft but persistent way of undermining anything that gives Hindus a proud feeling (he calls that as a despaible form named as Hindutva or Hindu nationalism). He wants to press the Hindu-mind so that Hindus would feel guilty anytime they want to be critical of anti-Hindu, non-violent actions. He wants to weaken Hindus to become lame or passive on morality grounds, by highlighting inexcusable outbursts of few and projecting that to the entire group and magnifying the feeling of guilt. This is a tactic done by the moderate, non-violent Muslims saints in the pre-British periods already. Where violence couldn't break the Hindu mind, morality was tried too. What is downgrading, SOV? That's his opinion of others having a critical attitude. SOV thinks like those Muslims, who are afraid of being critical. SOV doesn't want people to question things. That critical attitude he calls "downgrading". he does forget that within every religion there are people who are critical. SOV also forgets that there's a huge difference between moral codes based on social rules (with many, diverse, often conflicting schools) and religious verses (canonized and not looked upon critically especially with the prophetic religions) . SOV thinks like some Pakistanis in terms of challenge. Is this a game, a match? SOV didn't even once show that he was unbiased towards Hindus. He has smashed everytime any opportunity to be neutral. SOV wants to hear names of great Hindus, for what? To malign yet another great Hindu? That's another tactic of anti-Hindus. Instead the list of anti-Hindus is very long!!!! Not to mention how many Hindus many of them have killed in the name of their Gods! Where is SOV dreaming and lost is memory in that case? So SOV, whatever you say, man, you're another fake love-preacher of whatever prophetic religion. Even thinking that Hindus would buy your crap is like having and showing totally no respect. You said of yourself that you were a loser, that's maybe what you really are, besides being narrowminded and biased. You don't convince Hindus. The more you put posts the more you reveal how much you're biased against Hindus. The only one who doesn't see or realize this are you, SOV. Now that is a mega narrowmindedness. Question: Who is a Bhartiya? Answer: For sure not SOV!