Ishwa helper Reged: 03/03/02 Posts: 553

Re: Karma [Re: WiseForumFool] #13706 - 03/20/02 03:46 PM Edit Reply Quote

Dear VJR, Whatever you write down, this quote or I can better say judgement gives a good picture: .......Hinduism has more realism than your Christian or Islamic doctrines. It is really sad that someone can't get out of his complexes and judges others without knowing (Is it a projection?). How could you know me, you have to find out who you are yourself. It's funny to be called one with a Christian or even Islamic doctrine by a fellow Hindu. It does say more about the person pinkpointing than the one who is pinkpointed at. It's amusing to find on this discussion forum some people who are really spending much effort with judging others. Ironically are themselves really angry when some others do the same thing to them. Then the emotional part comes followed by judging someone else, even though/if someone is a fellow Hindu, with a different Hindu opinion. You may use any scientific tools as interpretation, but the texts themselves must be looked upon as it is, giving their meanings related to their roots. This is very much a Paninian way of dealing with the Sanskrit language, who had many great predecessors like Yaska, the older Aindra School teachers, etc. I didn't ever imagine that Hinduism, whether Advaita, Dvaita or Traita or anything else was about judging. By the way, no Christian or Muslim would ever say that he's God! Only a Hindu Vedantin or Uttara-Mimamsaka could or would say that he's no different from Brahman, but has to realize that from within. (The very word God is never used by a Vedantin, because that word confuses a lot) Only someone with respect for the Sankhya-Yoga system applies that to his realization or Nivrtti Path all line line with forefathers like Badarayana and Panchashikha. The Nivrtti Path is not a matter of competition or something to be expressed in years. The Nivrtti Path is not necessarily a path of all the ritualisms or books. It is a matter of realizing the Self. And that one has to do it by himself. Sat-sanga may help, a SadGuru is of great help, but the best thing is the SadGuru within, which is every second (with) you! There's too much Dvandva unfortunately. What's the use of meditation if there's so much anger. It's better to conquer first the anger, which is the very base for projecting. I have elsewhere given the example of Rishi Vishvamitra (who wanted so eagerly to become a Brahmarshi, but had to overcome his anger) Thinking in terms of 'mine' and 'your', as if opinion or thought or religion is a property, is a really very strange spiritual pathgoing I've ever met. So what's the use of Yajna, Puja, Dhyana, Veda, Vedanta, etc. if that simple one thing called anger in the inner coupled with another simple thing called projected judgement in the outer isn't overcome? I think this is for some a better thing or realization to tackle or handle first. Than maybe the "Mine" and "Your" dichotomy is a second realization? Edited by Ishwa on 03/20/02 03:20 PM (server time).