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Re: Please help me understand this.... [Re: Lhotse] #12887 - 03/03/02 08:23 AM Edit Reply Quote

According to my knowledge, to stay on topic, linguistics have never alone proven any original home of any nation. No AIT supporter nor any non-AIT supporter have proven only on the basis of linguistics the coming of Arya out of or from India. Even archeology hasn't proven the invasion. About the Dravidian link with the Indus Valley script: after so many decades supporters can say nothing more beyond hypotheses with no general acceptance. The most sorry case with India is, that it is very hard to disprove an older controversial theory, even if that theory is never ever proven. The adversaries have first to disprove that silly theory by reading a massive collection of sensical and nonsensical works, before being taken serieus. But this is not being a scientific way to handle subject matters. With this I mean the clumsy way with which AIT supporters talked about a northern home, because of the salmon and birk, etc., or the non-AIT non-philological equations of names. Only a multidisciplinary real scientific attitude may help to tackle this problem. And not budgets and sponsorship of groups on either side with other than an academic vision. P.S. I am personally not much convinced by the AIT arguments. I'm also aware of the importance of philology and linguistics. But the theories are especially in Europe (where I live) and the US developed out of AIT ideas before becoming a mature unbiased discipline. It is now a gigantic task to revise. Some damage is undone (revision), but there's much to be done, especially in the nature of Arya civilization or the Dravida-Arya dichotomy: In no Dravidian or Aryan book you can find both groups as hostile or alien. The Puranas for instance simply state that the South-Indians were offsprings from Dushyanta Paurava, the adopted son of Marutta the Turvasu. This branche of Turvasus merged with the Purus, who became the Bharatas. Some Turvasus partially remained in (south)western India, some went to the south: after Marutta came Sharutha, Andira, Sandhana, Pandya, Chola, Kerala, Chola and Kola. What does this mean. It simply means that according to the Puranas, based on some older pre-colonial information, the southern Indian had a connection with the northerners, from the sousthwestern direction on. Investigators have now to look seriously to the connections in archeology, philology-linguistics, cultural agreements, etc. Is there a southwestern remain of that southern culture or not, etc. You need a multidisciplinary open approach, but without bias, if that is possible.