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Re: Tribes of the Vedas [Re: Avatar] #14085 - 03/28/02 10:26 AM Edit Reply Quote

About the clans involved in that period, S. Talageri was really on the right track. Historical names and events are mentioned in the Vedas, but they serve a higher purpose, as examples, illustrations: the phenomenon of Potential Brahman especially in the Srshti-Effect in a manyfold scientific way. Veda Vyasa had (re)arranged everything of the older Veda in the end of the Mantra Period into 4 Samhitas (the fifth Veda is unfortunately lost, though some data are in the Itihasa-Puranas) as a work on many sciences. The main clans: Panchajanya: 1. Puru is the main clan, at the banks of the Sarasvati. This clan better known as the Bharatas has two main offshoots: the Srnjayas from Panchala and the Rkshas from Hastinapura. Out of the Rkshas or Aarkshas came the Kauravas. These last merged with the Panchalas into the One Kuru-Panchala culture in the Brahmana period. 2. The Anu: this clan was situated in the Panjab in the Mantra Period, but were kicked out of the Panjab into Afghanistan. These Anavas are the later Medes, Persians and Pathans, etc. Some subclans are named like the Paktha, Bhalana, Vishanin, Parshava, etc. 3. The Turvasu: this clan was situated also somewhere in the western part, somewhere in Gujarat-Sindh. This clan was very close to the Yadus. (These became later the Yavana-Greeks, Shakas, etc if we trust on the Mahabharata and Kalhanas Rajatarangini. Only on this point I disagree with S. Takageri) 4. Yadu: these were situated mainly somewhere in Maharashtra. I don't know yet whether the Yakshus were Yadava or Yaurvasava. The Yadus are also named as Yadva. 5. The Druhyu: these were still in the northwest, but their main body must have already left the subcontinent by millennia. The DashaRajnya War was almost in the end of the mantra period, whereas the Druhyu were present in Gandhara after losing to Yauvanashva II or III Aiksvakava from Ayodhya (mostly associated with Mandhatr). Within a few generations they went to northern barbarian countries to establish many kingdoms. There are many generations between Mandhatr of Ayodhya and the Parikshit Aikshvakava, roundabout the contemporary of king Sudas Bharata. Parikshit is the father of Shala and Dala, who had Nodhas Gautama as their Purohita, who then went to Somaka Sahadevya the (great?) grandson of Sudas. The Trtsus are mentioned. Most researchers identify them with the Bharatas, but I think them to be a pravara of(western) Vasishthas in whose Suktas this name is prominent. As they were very close to the Bharatas under especially Sudas, the two families must have appeared as working closely together. (The word Trtsu is often confused with Trkshi, who was a Rksha Bharata king) These cousinclans are the most prominent clans. Of these the Srnjayas of Panchala of the Puru-Bharata community are the most dominant in the end of the Mantra Period and are situated in the Sarasvati area.