Ishwa helper Reged: 03/03/02 Posts: 553

Re: India's Temple Mount [Re: Mughal] #13003 - 03/06/02 05:05 AM Edit Reply Quote

quoting Mughal It is not very appropriate to use the word "desecrating" when speaking about Hindu temples. From the Muslim point of view, a site sacral only when it is vowed to the worship of the Creator of the universe, and not to idols or to the hero worship as in the case of Ram mandir. The most strange thing about (non-pacifistic) Muslims is that they condemn idolworship, but ignore the fact that the greatest idol of all is the Ka'aba itself. In the pre-Islamic period, when the Allah was worshipped as the Moongod in Mecca (by the family of Muhammad himself), that very Ka'aba was partly destroyed by the first Muslims. The tradition proved to be too strong to abandon. Now, the Ka'aba was shaped by men to be worshipped by the so-called pagans. After destroying it to pieces the piece that remained and couldn't be removed is the Ka'aba of now. In the very centre of Muslim ritualism. Isn't that strange? To annihilate 'pagans' and their objects of worship, but doing exactly the same thing for worship? Besides, many Muslims abandon their homes to become one with an Arab custom of idolworship. Nothing wrong with that, but to punish others to do the same is a little bit strange. Islam is a religion, like every, that started upon older customs. Islam itself started with twisting Biblical and pagan (to be presented in Sufism and other mystical movements) thoughts and beliefs according their own ideas, so it isn't quite a revelation. Every period and every counter with other cultures became models to reshape the thoughts. Classical Roman-Greek cultures of Byzantine, but more strongly Persian Aryan models presented by the Sassanin Empire were easily adapted. For instance two words that are basic to Islam are namaz and din. Both words are from Persian, related to Sanskrit roots nam=to bend (in worship) and dhi=to think, to meditate upon. You cannot blame a religion for committing crimes, only the adherers of that religion. The adherers are so diverse that you can't speak of a similar tradition. The only similarity seems to be the zealous thrive of small pockets of noisy people in every country, traditionally not related, to annihilate anything different. I feel sorry for the bulk of people who are different from these noisy ones, not to mention the victims. Edited by Ishwa on 03/06/02 04:13 AM (server time).