Ishwa helper Reged: 03/03/02 Posts: 553

Re: jesus [Re: anu1586] #13971 - 03/26/02 03:25 AM Edit Reply Quote

I've summarised the text somewhere else. I'll look for it and paste it over here. And here it is: It's about the account of Notovich, a Russion journalist, who discovered some Buddhist monks showing a Pali manuscript mentioning Issa=Jesus' life and thus presence in India (actually in the post is mentioned Tibet). That manuscript talks about Jesus' life from his 13th to his 28th year, which is a blank part in the Christian Bible. Unfortunately the church is silent about this and the new age movement not. The poster would like to write an article about that book of Notovich and investigate the overall matter. My response was that actually very few people over here understand french, but the notion of Jesus life in the east might be known. I suggested him about the passage in the Bhavishyat-Purana about Isha=Issa=Jesus. I also mentioned that certain researchers describe Jesus as a rebel against Roman tyranny. Off-survey: Actually the whole Christian church has its starting point with Paul and not Jesus as he was (whatever that was). And Paul, formerly known as Saul, though himself a Jew was a persecutor of the Jewish Jesus movement. Only after the death of Jesus Paul became important (with the help of the Roman?) and had many quarrels with Peter, the right hand of Jesus. About Jesus (Yahushua or shortly Yashua) there are many legends. One of them sees in him the son of a Roman commander and Mary (Mariam). She married Joseph (Yahushuva), when she was pregnant. Jesus if of royal descent according to the gospels. Anyway, what is significant is that the New Testament is mainly a Paulian recast. The four "biographies" have many layers. These are books which have an older Roman scroll period (which are I think lost) and an even older papyrus period. Development First the acts of historical Jesus was described (Jesus is not the Messias (Mashshaiah=the anointed one, actually said of a king!)), but John (Yahuhannan) the Baptist is seen as the Messias, who was a seen as a political dangerous man for the Roman, and thus emprisoned. (Thee apocryphal, but especially some odd remarks in the gospels) Than the acts and previous predictions in the Older Testaments were interlinked, to let the readers believe that it's indeed Jesus who is the Messias, and that it was predicted. (in this version Jesus is very human, and even afraid when he is arrested to be crucified. The three gospels of Matthew, Marc and Luke) Than the acts and deeds are part of a great plan of God. (a jesus who knows everything what will happen and then acting accordingly for the benefit of human kind, especially in the gospel of John). We thus see a gradual deification of a historical very important human being. Edited by Ishwa on 03/26/02 00:35 AM (server time).