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Re: Death re: wiseforumfool [Re: vinaire] #13081 - 03/07/02 02:42 AM Edit Reply Quote

Dear Vinaire, That is basically what I think, in agreement with the teachings of the Kapileya line of thinkers, like Asuri (pupil of a Yajnavalkya), Asurayana and Panchashikha Vasishtha, but also with the teachings of Nachiketas Gautama of the Brahmana period, but also the teachings of Badarayana Vasishtha of the end of the Upanishad/Vedanta and beginning of the Sutra period. Also the Yoga school is in agreement with this. It is also in agreement with modern physical laws. Sankhya didn't disagree with Vedanta, but did start from the Purusha-Prakrti dichotomy, because that is were Dharman, Karman and Atman are starting to be (re)productive, all at the 'active' or Srshti (from the root sr=to flow) side of Brahman. The 'passive' side of Brahman is were Purusha and Prakrti are in a Pralaya (pra=in the place of, laya=movement) stage. The most difficult part is the understanding of the Brahman-Atman dilemma. The very thin but huge transition from Pralaya to Srshti. This stage in the reversely way is called Dharmamegha Sam�dhi and leads towards Kaivalya, where R�pa becomes Sva-r�pa 'vasth�nam. I belief that when Purusha and Prakrti are becoming active in the M�la stage and giving cracks in the bipolar flowing, you get from these two three dimensions: a predominantly Paurusheya or consciousness dimension also called Ishvara by the Yoga school of thinking, a predominantly Pr�krita or energetic dimension where Mah�-Pr�na and Mah�kasha are active, and a equally mixed Mahat or Jiv�tman dimension From this Jiv�tman of the Vyakta stage, where Asmita is the Dosha (sushupti avastha), we move to the Vyakti stage of Chitt�tman where the Doshas R�ga (attraction) and Dvesha (distraction) are increasingly active. (This is the Svapna avastha) The last stage is where the last Dosha is Abhinivesha and we are born on earth (j�grti avastha). I really think that all the philosophical systems are in agreement with each other, but have different starting point.