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Re: Parabrahman [Re: vinaire]
#13618 - 03/18/02 06:26 AM

I'm trying to understand myself why after Nirguna Purusha and Prakrti becoming a relative effect, the Indian philosophers have their particular sequences: from the m�la Triguna stage when the sattva-rajas-tamas-attributes are coming into motion/being and �k�sha-dish�-k�la attributes. So this is when Time comes into being.

This goes on till it is manifest (vyakta) as Mahat or Cosmic Buddhi.

The next stage is the vyakti or Individual manifestation with three sequences of individual mind: k�rana-s�kshma-sth�la.

The three stages of consciousness in matter or Jiiv�tman are m�la-vyakta-vyakti.
I tried to see whether the words fit also in a Prakrita sequence, from m�la to vyakta to vyakti. Certainly the words are there, like Mah�-pr�na, Param�nu, s�kshma bh�ta and sth�la bh�ta.

The word for Nirguna can then be a relative potential cause.
Saguna in M�la-Triguna is relative potential effect (potential cosmic)?
Vyakta is relative created cosmic effect (potential individual:postulate to be)?
Vyakti is relative created individual effect?

This last, the Vyakti has again three degrees: causal (k�rana), subtle (s�kshma) and final solid effect (sth�la).
Parallel with the individual mind, also matter is crystallizing (towards solidness).

I think potential, cause and effect are in every stage again relatively used to describe the relations.


The element of solidness is prthivi, that of subtlety or fluidity is salila/jala and of causal individuality is tejas or some kind of individual heat. Heat is not only a manifestation of motion, but also of transformation.
These are the elements given to individual. So the next element of v�yu must connected with Vyakta stage. Another word for v�yu is pr�na. It must be, as Mah�-Pr�na, some kind of cosmic energy.

The last element is �k�sha, which is the primeval period (m�la=root: related to biija=seed in sabiija sam�dhi?) of Saguna Brahman, when space (and time are coming into being).

Now the 5 elements fit in the 5 stages of Saguna Brahman.
The first three are like a tripartite whole: �k�sha-v�yu-tejas.
The last three also form a tripartite whole: tejas-salila-prthivi.
So the crosspoint (from cosmic to individual) is the very important transformatory Tejas.
We see everytime a tripartite principle in creation, out of a bipartite Purusha-Prakrti.

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