Ishwa helper Reged: 03/03/02 Posts: 553

Re: WHAT IS BRAHMAN? [Re: vinaire] #13184 - 03/10/02 04:43 AM Edit Reply Quote

Dear Vinaire, I was a little bit upset, to tell you the truth. But it was because of you reminding me of my shortcomings to express myself clearly. Actually I have the same urge to seek for concepts and words in their simplicity. But at that point I rather failed to give a simple or even clear explanation. With more concrete disciplines like philology and history, I feel more at home. With music I don't feel the urge to explain what I'm playing, I'm just performing and making others understand through my playing. I really like to debate with you too, because for the first time in many years I feel that someone can make me look critically again to my own understanding and the synonyms for the Indian words, and what their relation is. I have to master English yet, especially in this philosophical context, for I'm more at home in Dutch and Bhojpuri-Sarnami Hindi. Again about Purusha-Prakrti and Brahman I'm using these words in double meanings: a potential causal Purusha Prakrti and a created Purusha-Prakrti=attributive. This would make the whole a concept from latent, potential proto-dual towards a created dual. If only the word Purusha is the cause, and Prakrti is the effect, than you reduce it to two terms, which is very convenient. For me this causal Purusha is a potential Purusha-Prakrti, that will become the effected Prakrti as a created Purusha-Prakrti. Ater reading your two articles I finally think to understand what you mean by absolute, cause and effect. Absolute is Brahman, Cause is Purusha and Effect is Prakrti. The Absolute is beyond our comprehension and the cause-effect is what is the comprehendable aspect of the Absolute. The only difference with me is that your Causal Purusha is for me a Potential Purusha-Prakrti and your Effect-Prakrti is for me a Created Purusha-Prakrti. The Absolute was something I didn't want to touch (yet) and thus was left behind. The word Absolute Potential sounds good to me. That will make the proto-Purusha-Prakrti a Relative Potential. Potential Purusha is the self-determining aspect and Potential Prakrti is that aspect that is unmanifested space, time, matter and energy (also called m�la-prakrti), when manifested is called Pr�krita or created Prakrti. Created Purusha is what people understand as God (Ishvara). Purusha with Prakrti together is to my understanding created Jiiv�tman (also called Mahat in the collective sense), what we understand as animated creatures. This is basically my understanding of the creation at this point. Thanks for the appropriate words. They're really quite a help. Edited by Ishwa on 03/10/02 02:07 AM (server time).