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Re: Stop Inhumane system of Casteism/VarnaDharma [Re: GuruDas] #19665 - 09/05/02 03:26 AM Edit Reply Quote

V�lmiiki is counted amongst the Bhargavas. V�lmiiki was not his personal name, but an indication of the name of his father: V�lmiika. Satyak�ma J�b�la was an Aupamanyava (as such he's addressed in one of the Br�hmanas). Most probably his father was Pr�chiinsh�la Aupamanyava, who was dead when he was a child. About the others, I don't know their Varna. Varn�shrama Dharma was already something of the remotest times in the post-Vedic Period and before the Gupta Age (The Guptas were especially famous for their Bhagavata Bhakti promotion). It is even doubted by some to have been an actuality in the ArthaSh�stra of Kautilya. It would be very interesting to find out when Varna did still denote simply "community" (in the Mantra Age) and when "occupation" and how long it was a remote, idealized word. By the way, Sikkhism has a lot in common with Hinduism, especially with the Nirguna section from Shaivism and Sagun�tmaka devotionalism from Vaishnavism. Sikkhism is totally within the Bhakti movement of Hinduism of that period, with antecedents in the older Bhagavata Bhaktism and the Yogic systems of for instance the N�thas. Sikkhism looks very like the Bhed�bheda Ved�nta of the Vaishnava in relation to God vs Man. Sikkhism even retains the ancient Indra element in the names, referring to Vedic heroism. The Pancha Kak�ra of Sikkhism may have been at least a numeric imitation of the Pancha Mak�ra of V�ma Tantrism.