Ishwa helper Reged: 03/03/02 Posts: 553	Re: Claims of 'Vedic Truth' [Re: sickofviolence] #19601 - 09/03/02 04:18 AM Edit Reply Quote
	KabiraDasa was, SOV, protesting against the mere ritualism and book knowledge based on that, by which the authentic experience seemed to look secondary to ritualism. Any system of counting breatings or forms of Japas are actually on the same level as ritualism. Actually Patanjali in his YogaSutra was not really supporting Japa in relation to true Samadhi.