Ishwa helper Reged: 03/03/02 Posts: 553

Re: Meaning and significance of Siva [Re: willie] #16867 - 05/30/02 05:25 AM Edit Reply Quote

I hope to understand what you tried to say, Willie. The reason why people like OBL are popular has nothing to do primarily with religion, but more with economics, and the ones held responsible for that, the politics. (This has been pointed earlier) When people aren't satisfied economically, frustration will pile up, and a black sheep will be named and targeted. When political means won't succeed, then something more powerful will be used, depending on the nature of that power. The more simplistic that power, the more it will fuse with social issues caused by bad economics and a bad government. Here religion comes in. As human beings are social beings, they can act in the worst case as game animals, and follow the leader, who promises them better prospectives. Fuse this phenomenon with mass media and a real danger is born. But when you're trying to compare selfrealization with politics for older days, I have my serious doubts which standards and methodology you want to apply. For instance, how would you compare a Buddha and his movement with an OBL or Dawood Ibrahim? Do you understand the subtlety and the debth of studies or research involved? As you are very much against the past, older and dead saints and even texts in general, how do you want to understand the time setting and nature of any movement of the past and their impact and developments? How do you want to compare if you ignore old material, let alone any proper methodology? Aren't you contradicting yourself, Willie?