Ishwa helper Reged: 03/03/02 Posts: 553

Re: Similarities between Christianity and Hinduism!! [Re: vinaire] #17533 - 06/17/02 04:10 AM Edit Reply Quote

The first followers of Jesus were outnumbered by the school of Paul to get a more Graeco-Roman cosmopolitan flavour, with many increasing features from pagan religions (especially Mitras of Persian-Indian, Wodan of Germanic: both are connected with Mitr�-Varuna and the solstice celebrations, the winter solstice of Mitra Aditiputra born in a cave taken over as Christmas). It's no wonder that any movement adapts itself to the environment it encounters. The same happened with Christianity. But how much was retained from the original Yahushua philosophy is a matter of dispute. It's for sure amongst the specialists that the fundamental shape of Christianity has been done by Paul, very much against the real followers of Yahushua, like Shimon Kipha or Petrus. In the Paulian synoptical stage the Mashshaiah or Messias status goes finally to Yahushua (though some original doubts are still in the Gospels) and not to his teacher Yahuhannan the Baptist. Paul himself (according to his own Lettres) changes Yahushua gradually after his visits to Asia Minor towards the Son of God. The gospel of Yahuhannan or John represents after the Paulian stage another early stage, which is gnostic: mystical and Greek and represents Yahushua as God himself. The use of Logos comes in, which was uses many centuries BC by Heraclitos. Attempts were made to fuse the concepts of Logos with the Jewish Yahweh. John removed also Yahushua's eschatology or end of the world concept (very much Jewish, or in his case Galilean: apocalyptical concept learnt from his master Yahuhannan), and instead emphasizes his second coming. The divinisation of Yahushua (a Graeco-Roman feature) is almost complete. The Hellenism in Christianity, started by Paul, was complete in the Gospel of John. The Paulian scribes connected many Oldtestamental predictions and stories with Yahushua's life. But they couldn't polish every authentic passage away, as we can observe some strange events in the Gospels: the Jewish establishment (Sanhedrin) is accused by the scribes to be guilty of the trial and persecution, which is very strange for several reasons: 1. Jesus' body and burial preparations were taken care of by two members of the Sanhedrin, one of which was his rich cousin, named Yahushaph or Arimatea. Normally someone cruxified was hanged till he died. But why this exception for a very dangeorus person for the Romans as well as Sanhedrin? 2. Why was Pontius Pilatus not made guilty? The Romans were actually guilty with the support of certain collaborating sections of the Jewish aristocracy. Was it out of fear for the Romans that they were made not guilty at all (washing of the hands)? Why targeting especially Yahuda to blame the rebellious people of Yahudia for the murder on Yahushua? Was that because Pontius was responsible for this province? (Herodes Antipas was responsible for Galilea, and did execute Yahuhannan the Baptist) 3. Who was this Malchus (for Hebrew Melekh/Melek or 'king'), who was with the arrestation team of Romans, never to figure again? And where was Saul, the future Paul? 4. Before entering Yerushalayim, Jesus was crowned king. Now that is a very provocative act towards the Romans, who were cruel towards any kind of opposition, let alone someone crowned as king. 5. Why did Mariam 'Magdalena' ask for the body of Yahushua? That's an old (matrilinear) Jewish tradition typical for a wife to do! 6. Why is Yahushua called a Nazarener? No one born in Bethlehem (I believe in Yahudia) would call himself a Nazarener = someone from Nazareth, a Galilean town. Is this again a touch of the Paulian scribes, familiar with the Mashshaiah predictions of the OT? 7. How could the scribes tell about a trial done by the Sanhedrin? No disciple or scribe was present at that moment, so no witness was there. How could Saul = Paul know this? One highpriest was involved with Romans, and that was Yahushaph (ben) Kayapha, who was close with Pontius Pilatus, the procurator of Yahudia, and were fired both in the same period, in the end of 36 beginning of 37 AD. 8. Why did Yahushua choose two disciples who were amongst the most rebellious military sects of Ishrael? They were Shimon the Zelot and Yahuda Ishkariot. Only the presence of these two was enough to be suspicious and get arrested. 9. Why do the names of the disciples have variations in the Gospels? Who was the Thirteenth? Was he the apostle who was never his disciple, but the foremost amongst the Christians? 10. Why did the synoptical Gospels say that Yahushua was crucified on Easter, while that was not the case according to theologicans (the Salesian pater Raymond E. Brown and John D. Crossan), because that would have aroused a mass rebellion. (according to the older Gospel of Petrus 2: 5b, which doesn't belong to the NT proper, it was on the day before). etc etc etc.