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Re: Why Hindutva is not our Dharma!!! [Re: sickofviolence] #14898 - 04/16/02 04:26 AM Edit Reply Quote

Hmm, Sickofviolence, Forgiving is an authentic power done when you are in the free position to forgive. Forgiving when you're not in power may have another cause. Hindu women didn't only forgive, but most of all seeked for justice. In this they got support from the men. The two great epics are fought for the dignity of their women: The Ramayana war was for doing justice to Sita and the Mahabharata for doing justice to Draupadi. But this is another issue. Of course the killing of innocent people either way is injustifiable. But to depend on Karma is the most naive law I have ever heard of. In that sense the retalliation may be expained as a Karmic response! So it's very dangerous to depend (legislatively or socially) on Karmic Law in these matters. About forgivingness in general This is the most abused phenomenon, especially negatively working for Hindus. Hindus are afraid of not forgiving. But others don't even frown a second to be agressive. Day� and Ksham� are one of the greatest gifts of Hindus to mankind, which Christianity learned through Bauddha Hinduism. But when you're not dealing with civilized people, who rape your women folk, who slaughter your men folk, not sparing even children or elders, you will automatically get re-action. This is where the militant Hindus came. This movement didn't rise because of looking for picknic parties, but because of centuries of abuse of the forgivingness of the Hindus. Still no justification for retalliation, but this is how this movement came into being. Being afraid for not forgiving is no bravery. Whenever one is afraid, that person is in the worst position to forgive properly. Hindus are afraid to do wrong, but in that are beaten by their adversaries, who aren't ashamed in doing wrong. So before being Day�lu and Ksham�shiil, one should be strong from inside and ban fear. The only way to put Ahimsa (in a civilized environment) and proper Himsa (in an uncivilized environment) into practice, is to be strong from inside and have that charisma. It means that Hindus have to be proud of being Hindus, but also of not being afraid to act and counteract against violence in a proper defensive or even tactically offensive legal way. Ahims� with fear or doubts or not authentic power will defeat anyone before any confrontation.