Tuesday, July 7, 2009

Ishwa
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Re: Rama & MEAT (he did or didn't eat meat) [Re: dhilwala2001]
#18533 - 07/09/02 09:39 AM

Haha, Dhilwala, what makes you think that something you say will 'hurt my sense of Hindu pride, then maybe humility is a lesson which needs to be worked on'? One ought to think for oneself what one feels or thinks, doesn't one? I don't have to depend on the authority of any Baba for that.
Has the word 'pride' too much impact on you? I wonder why some people immediately rush towards this word, when not getting the reply they wanted. Then projection is the second move. So predictable.

Maybe what I said was dry (is that a crime or not living up to any idealism?), but then if one wants to say something 'accurately', as you want from the Ramayana, then one has to know what facts he's talking about from the primary sources as 'dry' as possible, that is objectiveness.

What exactly is your point. One second the story is not accurate, then the ideals set by Rama are important. What makes you think that those ideals are 'accurate', but the rest not? What criteria are you using to base these assumptions on? So what makes you think that one thing you hesitate about is not accurate, but that which you assume to be ideals are accurate? Very strange way of thinking.

I would recommend you to read any version of the Ramayana to start with and taste something of this work. Secondary works might help for the background information. The best thing would be to learn and understand Sanskrit, which is the language of the oldest sources. Tulasi Ramayana is in Old-Baishwari Avadhi, and is an adaptation of the older story! It's up to you to invest time and efforts in background information, the deeper the better to understand the problems of chronology and authenticity. It's your process, no one can do that for you, no Baba has to relied upon. This is what I mean with investigation, the same counts for the inner experience. I hoped that you would grasp that meaning.

For me it doesn't matter whether the recent system is different from the ancient. I'm more interested in the process of changes. That may be dry, but workable and recommendable.

Edited by Ishwa (07/09/02 09:50 AM)

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